This is coolbert: I agree that the building of a sub-division around a golf course is a great idea. I have seen such an area in Winfield and at White Eagle in Aurora. Of course White Eagle is really upper scale. The Winfield course was much more modest, perhaps nine holes only. But really boss. Residents in the nine hole sub-division seemed to have unlimited playing possibilities and did use the course on a regular basis. This was an added feature to the sub-division, playing privileges, and used by a considerable number of people, as far as I could tell. Around this area, from what I see, the trend is to have courses that are by appearance barren and Scottish like in nature, no trees. Prairie Landing at the Du Page County airport is the archetype of this concept.



A golf course surrounded by high quality residential development has become a popular development form. These type of developments are often completely private, but the participation of a municipality helps ensure the success of the development.

The following illustrates the benefits of a public/private partnership for the development of a golf course residential community.


Spur economic development and increase tax base
Enhance the prestige of the area
Increase open space
Secure wet land preservation
Provide storm water detention
Improve the appearance of the town
Assist in annexation of key property
Provide recreation


Spur sales of surrounding development
Enhance the prestige of the development
Secure an owner of the golf course amenity
Assist in the finance of the golf course
Improve profitability
Lower costs for storm water detention
Assist in utility connection
Ensure governmental approval

This is coolbert: Another idea to improve sub-divisions. NO mailboxes in front of the house. Either have a mailman deliver the mail on foot to your home, or have one central group of mailboxes in the subdivision with a sturdy group of mailboxes. Prevent vandals from smashing the individual mailboxes in front of the homes. Is an eyesore anyhow. Damn things are just tempting targets for the car-borne vandals with baseball bats.

This is coolbert: Enforce city ordinances in the big cities to make them more enjoyable and more livable. NO panhandling. NONE at all. Crack down on such persons and stop them in their tracks. It is a known fact these persons are for the most part not the downtrodden homeless persons they claim they are. Panhandling is a business practiced by dissolute persons for the most part taking advantage of misplaced sentimentality.


This is coolbert: More things to make a town more livable. Enforce the ordinances of a town to the max extent, and in the manner that they were intended to be enforced. Dog leashes must be on dogs all time so they cannot roam loose. And not a 100' long leash either! A reasonable leash, say six feet max. Cats are not allowed to roam loose either. Not at all. No nuisance pets. No dogs barking constantly all day. If your dog is a nuisance, it will have to be gotten rid of. And no exceptions or quibbling about this either. Pets have their place. But keep them in their place. And clean up the dog mess too. Don't make it in the first place is best of course, but if you do have a dog making dog mess, clean it up.


This is coolbert: Some ideas on how to make a community more livable. Build homes that have these features: NO fireplaces. Bedrooms in back of house only, not in the front. Attached garages in the rear of the house. Alleys for access to garages. Build homes where several generations can live in the same dwelling, if they wish. Build a large bedroom on the first floor with a full bath. Allow granny or grandpa to live in that room. Communities have to have a mix of people of all ages to be viable. Kids run amuck without supervision of elders.


You have to go far into the countryside to escape urban light. Most city people do not realize that you can see the Milky Way in rural areas
This is coolbert: Things to make a city a better place. One is to reduce light levels so you can see the stars at night. Streetlights and security lights and such can have some sort of baffle to make the light shine down but not outward. Light a smaller area better and don't shine in someone's window at night. Second is to eliminate the winding roads popular in subdivisions. Prevent people from pretending they are at the 24 hours of Le Mans. Stop people from going 50 mph in a 25 mph zone. Thirdly, eliminate cul-de-sacs. Why are they even built in the first place? What is the attraction? Fourth, stop people from parking on the sidewalk. People have so many vehicles they cannot park them all on the driveway and in the garage. Cannot park on the street at night time. So they park on the sidewalk and block foot traffic. Have a roving citizen patrol ticket these people or issue warnings. People need to get a handle on the number of cars they need!!


Anyone have a parking ordinance that they think is good and that they would share? We are reworking our ordinance in Mokena.

Most ordinance that I have looked at require one parking space for 200 or 250 square feet of retail space, and one parking space per 100 square feet of restaurant. Anyone have a better idea?
We attended an Andres Duany seminar for two hours last night at South Bend. He spoke for two hours, no questions, no illustrations. A number of interesting ideas, but nothing earth shattering.

His assessment of urban redevelopment was interesting. The first pioneers into a neighborhood are the risk oblivious - students, artists, etc, who often illegally move into old lofts. Then come the risk aware, and finally the risk averse. The neighborhood is then fully regentrified.

He also said that central cities are competing with their suburbs, not other cities. He said that suburban developers are very good at what they do, providing affordable and quality housing on large lots. Cities cannot compete with open space, golf courses, etc. Duany believes that what cities can provide is an active 24 hour street life, and that people will pay to be part of that environment. And he is correct, for large cities. I am not so sure about smaller cities.

He also made several cracks about vynal clad boxes. Just a little elitist. But of course this is ok if you are talking about the vast middle class, not the poor.
Andres Duarny will be in South Bend to give a free lecture Zoning for Traditional Towns and Neighborhoods: Transect and Smart Code at 7 pm South Bend time – 6 our time.

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